April 1998


Idaho Falls Passenger Depot

Located at Cottage (now Yellowstone) and C Streets

1911-1964



Issue 04-98 Bruce S. Lee, Editor

From the Throttle

This month I am going to devote my editorial to some concerns and observations that I've made.

While I only recently joined the Eagle Rock Railroad Historical Society I have already noted a strange phenomenon: it is always the same few people who are participating in the clubs' activities. I find this strange, because the club now has a huge area in which to build a layout in a location which should be ours for many years; yet only three or four people are working to prepare the area for our common enjoyment.

Club participation has reached such small numbers that we had to wait over three months to conduct business at our monthly business meeting because we lacked the required eight members being present.

Now is the time to rededicate ourselves to "The Club". Time spent now, during the construction phases of our new layout(s) will be time well spent as in future years we enjoy the fruits of our labors.

The time has also come to announce a vacancy in the Board. Lee Calkins has left to serve a two year mission for the LDS Church thus leaving the position of Secretary vacant. We would like to extend an invitation for a volunteer to fill the remaining months of his term. All those interested should contact Leo Harker.

One last comment, on behalf of those who went on our recent layout trip, I would like to thank Bruce Eckersell of Eckersell Memorial Chapel for the tour of his father's great O gauge Idaho Eastern layout and I would also like to thank Larry and Marty Lane for showing us their layout as well as for the refreshments afterwards.



These newsgroups might be of interest to follow:

rec.models.railroad

alt.railroad.steam

alt.models.railroad.ho

alt.railroad



M-O-W

Despite our best efforts, room preparation goes slowly at the Idaho Falls Rec Center. We had scraped the floor to remove all the loose floor paint and then etched the entire floor. The results were not as expected. The areas of remaining floor paint now had lifted edges while the surface of the old paint was now oily and hardly the type of surface that could be covered over with a new coat of paint.

We are now forced to completely strip the old floor surface and are about 60% done with this task. We have tried power floor scrapers, heat guns, hand scraping, harsh language and ignoring it. Of all the above, hand scraping following the heat gun seem to work the best; but it is a very slow process.



Points of Interest

This month I intended to do a highlight on the Colorado Midland Railway; however, other than an excellent handout provided by Doug Herrmann, I could find very little about this railroad. However, during my explorations, I did find some interesting information regarding the Colorado Midland's sister railroad: The Midland Terminal. Much of what follows has been extracted from the Colorado City Historical Society home page:

www.history.oldcolo.com/history/genhist/railroad/midland.html.







Our affair with the midland terminal

Written by Ira Current.

It was near summer bed time, but we were granted our usual reprieve to run two blocks to the entrance of Red Rock Canyon in time to see the nightly Midland Terminal Railroad freight train of about 20 to 30 empty ore cars head off for Cripple Creek. Our perch on the bank of the low cut near the red rocks permitted an intimate association with the three locomotives and their engineers and firemen as they shoveled coal to urge a good start up Ute Pass.

The next morning we could take in the loaded cars of gold ore as they were brought down the pass to the Golden Cycle Mill at what was Colorado City.

Brakemen walked back and forth over the ore filled cars to assist in the braking during and after descending through Ute Pass. Later in the day a single switcher locomotive pushed individual cars to dump their loads at the mill stockpiles. The distant sound of this seemingly interminable work persisted throughout the day and night.

At midmorning the daily passenger train, consisting of locomotive, baggage car, and passenger car, departed from Colorado Springs, stopped at the station still labeled "Colorado City," then huffed sprightly over the track on its run to Cripple Creek. The train returned on schedule in the early evening of the same day. In the summer time the railroad often ran a Sunday wild flower excursion to Woodland Park, and in later years a ski train delivered sportsmen to the slopes.

The daytime hours might also find our friend Jim Wood and other members of what was called the Colorado City Section Crew at work on the railroad right of way. Jim lived in the home of his parents in Red Rock Canyon. His father had worked in the red sandstone quarries, which had long since been closed. The sandstone, some of which was used to construct some early downtown Colorado Springs buildings, gave way to other building material. Sand from the canyon was used to make molds for sand castings, and a spur that departed from the main line at the entrance of the canyon served as a loading point years after the rails leading to the quarries had been removed from the canyon. Jim's life evolved around the railroad, where he had held several positions. He apparently loved his relationship with iron, and had constructed a model locomotive and rolling stock to run on a 15-inch gauge track on the canyon slope above his home. He also fabricated a steam tractor, making wheels out of the ends of round boilers. Discarded engines from Stanley Steamer automobiles were the actual motive power for all of these projects.

By walking a mile or so east of our Red Rock Canyon viewpoint we would find the round house, where the affable locomotive maintenance mechanics answered questions about steam motive power. A nearby yard held a stock of car wheels that could be drawn on for maintenance. A not-too-distant side trip led us to the Golden Cycle Mill, where the Cripple Creek ore was ground, roasted and treated with sodium cyanide to dissolve the gold. Zinc shavings placed in the solution plated out the gold, which was then recovered by smelting. There seemed to be no limitations on our roaming over the leaching vats.

We seldom caught sight of the rotary snow plow in action, but on our trips to the yards we were reminded that it and other equipment such as cranes were part of the little railroad's makeup.

The people of one of the Colorado Springs radio stations made a recording of the last run of a train down Ute Pass before the railroad was abandoned. Some years later, members of the station played the tape through loudspeakers mounted on a sound truck, while driving down Ute Pass. This brought out many telephone calls about a "ghost train" on the loose. For a complete account of the railroad, see The Cripple Creek Road by Edward M. "Mel" McFarland, Pruett Publishing Company, Boulder, Colorado (1984).

Nearly all of the Midland's locomotive roster is accounted for in this view of the turntable and roundhouse; now the home of Van Bringle Pottery.



Monthly Quiz

What is Quartering?

A. Scrapping a locomotive by cutting into 4 or more pieces.

B. Method of balancing the connecting rod's weight on a locomotives' drivers.

C. Practice of allowing railroad employees to travel on passenger trains for $0.25.

D. Breaking up a train into 4 or more segments to get over a steep grade.

Answer in next months newsletter



President's Soap Box - Leo Harker

If any of the membership has followed the business and by-laws of the Eagle Rock Railroad Historical Society, you will remember that the definition of a Quorum, as defined for the purpose of conducting Official Business has changed since the by-laws were originally written. The changes were made in order to accommodate the changing membership numbers which we have seen over the recent years. The original requirement, that a simple majority of the membership be present in order to conduct business, was changed to eight members necessary to conduct official business because the group included a number of members who never attended the business meetings and thus the percentage of attendees did not constitute a majority. At the present time, our active membership has declined to the point where we seldom see the eight members necessary to conduct business under the existing by-law. At the general business meeting that was scheduled to be held on March 5 1998, we never had the eight members present at one time although some who came and left did leave a proxy in case any business was eventually conducted.

The ensuing discussions about the dilemma caused by the lack of voting membership, caused the group the debate the necessity of holding a monthly business meeting. This issue was further reinforced last year when I was attempting to hold a monthly board meeting before the business meeting and heard some resistance on the grounds that we end up covering the same ground twice. We have not attempted to hold a board meeting since, although the board has met informally and discussed business pertinent to the acquisition of the space and other matters relevant to the preparations now under way. The larger issue remains; that being, if the members want a voice in the direction and activities of the club, they need to attend and participate in the decision making process or the Board will be forced to make all the decisions for them.

Our new Editor, Bruce, has made an excellent suggestion wherein we come up with an official name for the newsletter and hold a contest to decide the matter. To date, it has been published under the generic name of newsletter. Here is everyone's chance to put in their two cents worth on this issue. The winner may get something for their prize winning entry. Bruce produced his first edition of the newsletter last month and should be commended for the outstanding job. Thanks Bruce.









Timetable

April 2nd Business Meeting

April 9th Room Preparation

April 16th Room Preparation

April 23rd Room Preparation

April 25th Livingston, MT - Visit the Hobby/Swap Meet at the historic NP Depot

April 26th Helena, MT - Visit the Hobby/Railfan Show at the Civic Center

April 30th Operations???

May 7th Business Meeting





From the Atlas Forum:

"True to Life"

(via newsgroups): by Alan Winston

awinston@scn.org

It has been said that HO is great if your pretty much willing to dedicate a room to your layout; others think N is better for people who don't have a lot of space.

This is certainly a widely held point of view, but there is also a growing (still minority) of opinion that there is NEVER enough room for HO, and even N is pretty darn tight.

The history of model railroading is one of a gradual and very, very slow movement from its toy train roots in the direction of scale models of prototype railroading.

During the Depression, and before, hand laid track on wood ties, was a daily occurrence; but the rail on this hand laid track was frequently bent sheet metal that looked like Lionel track, and had similarly sharp curves. Scratch built cars were built to the same proportions as the tinplate equipment then in use, not to scale. There were a few people moving more towards scale equipment, but not many.

By the fifties scale equipment was considered the norm, albeit often with long equipment shortened a bit, passenger cars in particular were often scale 65' instead of correct 80'-85'. Leave out a few windows, compress what's left a little. Athearn passenger cars and RDCs are still like that in HO.

But starting in the sixties, the movement to have equipment to scale

dimensions began to become the "norm," and crowd out "selective compression" in rolling stock.

"Selective compression" is still alive and well in HO structures, scenery, and especially track curvature. But as long as the tradition of HO modeling adheres to its traditions of "this is what creative model railroading is all about," it is very hard for its adherents to see the problem.

Outsiders can still tell. When they see even the most detailed and scenicked "classic" "model railroad," they know in their hearts that they are seeing a glorified toy train set. They quickly learn that the "model railroader" objects to the "toy trains" label, and if they are nice, they humor him or her. But in their hearts, they know the truth.

Some folks would like to move another step away from the "toy train" heritage, and eschew "selective compression" in structures and track radius. Yes, we'll still have to be "selective" in choosing the types of scenes, that we model. We'll have to trim out some intervening scenes. We may even have to a LITTLE "selective compression."

But we intend to start by knowing the dimensions of what we are modeling, and attempting to achieve them, instead of pronouncing them "impossible," and giving them little or no further thought.

The sharpest curve on the main lines between Seattle and Portland is a 10 degree curve in Tacoma ("Dock Street") -- that's 43" radius in N -- and is within a 10 mph speed restriction.

In Portland, the East approaches (against a bluff) of the Steel bridge are 16 deg on the North Leg and 16 deg 24 min on the South leg -- call it 26" radius in N -- 6 mph speed restriction.

The sharpest curve outside of a city is on the UP at Sumner, Washington, at 6 deg 30 min -- 66" radius in N -- the speed restriction in 1984 was 30 mph.

Curves between Seattle and Portland are generally 3 deg (143" r N), with many as broad as 1 deg (430" r in N -- that's almost 36 feet!).

In the Blue Mountains of Eastern Oregon, the rugged country forced the UP to some curves as sharp as 8 deg 45 min (49" r N), many curves on this stretch are 4 deg (107" r N) or broader.



Knowing these kinds of numbers causes HOers to mouth platitudes. But these kinds of numbers are being considered, and efforts made to honor them, by a number of N scalers building or planning layouts.

They are driven by a desire for more prototypical accuracy. They are willing to give up a little detail level in equipment in exchange for a great deal more accuracy in overall layout appearance.

The quality in appearance and performance of recent N scale releases from Atlas (and some others) has reduced the "sacrifice" level to the acceptable. Many of us expect to see N nudging out HO as the leading choice for large layouts, as well as small, just as once upon a time HO did the same for O.

HO won't disappear, just as the Atlas O line shows that HO didn't "kill" O, but choosing for the future may mean choosing N.





Please visit our layout and meeting room location at Idaho Falls Rec Center, 520 Memorial Drive.

Enter from Memorial North Entrance, from the entrance hall turn left towards the office, left again and proceed downstairs. The layout room is in the Southwest corner of the basement. Head room is restricted for 6 footers, so watch your head.

We are open every Thursday evening except Holidays or when an alternate event is scheduled.

Visitors and new members are always welcome.